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September 15, 2011

The Reality of the Amish Buggy… it’s about safety.

Filed under: Government Regulations,Random Thoughts — Tags: , , , , , — AWG @ 9:54 am

This story is a local story that has gone national… I’ve seen it on Fox, CNN, Drudge, The Blaze, Daily Caller and several others. I’ve read 100′s of comments both left and right and it amazes me just how stupid both sides can be, a few get it but most are clueless. Why? Because they don’t live here and they don’t understand it…

Now keep in mind the Amish do NOT pay a road tax, vehicle tax, usage tax or any tax for that matter so their using the roads is a privileged and not a right. They want to be apart and separate from the rest of the folks here until they need to use the road, the hospital, the police, the fire department or other public services they pay no taxes or fees to support.

From the Blaze -

Religious Discrimination? 8 Amish Men Jailed After Refusal to Post Safety Signs on Buggies

In a story that perfectly illustrates the potential clash between religious adherence and government policy, nine Amish men who refused to display an orange reflective triangle on their horse-drawn buggies have been ordered to jail for not paying court-imposed fines.

The men belong to the ultraconservative Old Order Swartzentruber Amish sect in western Kentucky. While other Amish sects in the area do comply with the regulation, the especially-strict order objects to the triangles because the bright color violates their modesty code.

The Courier-Journal reports that the men say paying the fines would amount to complying with a law they believe violates their religious strictures. Levi Zook, one of the individuals who was sentenced, explained to the court his views on the matter.

“I don’t think it’s right to put somebody in jail for practicing their religious beliefs,” he said. “But that’s what we’ll do if that’s what it takes to abide by the biblical laws.”

Here is the deal.. it’s an safety issue – PERIOD! You want to obey your religious beliefs Levi… stay off the damn roads! I live here and I see these buggies all the time and if you come up on a black buggy traveling 3 MPH on a blacktop road and you are driving a car or truck traveling  55 MPH – you don’t see them until you are on top of them. We have a lot of tree lined roads in the country and they are dark at all times of the day. We’ve had several Amish killed of injured in traffic accident because when buggy verses vehicle the buggy loses every time and without a safety triangle they will get closer to God in a hurry.

I’m a Libertarian, I believe in less rules and far less government regulation – but I have common sense and I use it. The Amish are ignoring common sense and someone else is going to be killed and then they’ll want to file charges against the “outsider” because they couldn’t put a damn triangle on their buggy!

Another point – we use to require safety lights… red running lights powered by battery the Amish protested and fought that so us “modern folks” compromised with the agriculture safety triangle and now they are protesting that… the community has to draw the line somewhere. Let me tell you I generally like the Amish and know a few, but they can be bigger hypocrites than Liberals – remember the 5 Amish guys drunk and groping little girls? Would these morons defend them if they said that was a religious right?

Here are a couple of the idiotic arguments I’ve heard…

“Well what about cars with burnt out taillights?”
That’s illegal too and a car is bigger, traveling at the same speed, still illegal but less like to cause an accident.

It’s a violation of their religious right!
If they don’t want to have a safety triangle on their buggy then stay off the roads… no one is forcing you to travel on the roads.

It’s government oppression!
No it’s common sense – if you are traveling at 3 MPH on a road with cars traveling 55 MPH you are a hazard and at risk!

Now this is the same evil “modern” community that came together to help the Amish when they tried to cross a flooded stream and several of their children were washed away…

Four Amish children drown in flooded Kentucky creek

The local community held fund raiser and helped the Amish family in many, many ways. So the least they can do is obey the damn traffic laws and put a safety triangle on their buggy.

Just a thought – what if I said it was my religious belief to drive as fast as I want? Or ignore stop signs or stop lights? Would I have a right do drive like idiot and  I own the road and the rules of the road don’t apply to me? Like I said no one forces them to use the roads… so if they do they have to follow the rules. It’s like this they need Ag safety triangles on their buggies and they can’t grope little girls.

It’s that simple.

Amish men jailed over refusal to use orange safety triangle on buggies
Amish men jailed after refusing to pay fines for not displaying safety triangles on buggies

October 6, 2010

Gene Cranick – you made your choice now deal with it

Filed under: FYI,Random Thoughts — Tags: , , , , , , — AWG @ 10:43 am

Special note for all you libtards coming here – Mr. Cranick didn’t FORGET to pay his fee, he REFUSED to pay his fee. Get your facts straight!

Now…

You might be saying ‘who the hell is Gene Cranick?’

Well this local story for me has become a national debate of sorts and I have suffered through liberal blog, after liberal blog reading what the idiots on the left are failing to report as they seems to believe everything in life is free, well it’s not! Someone has to pay.

Choice have consequences…

The libtards say Cranick FORGOT to pay his fee – not true what Cranick said first was…

Firefighters watch as home burns to the ground

Mr Cranick said: “I thought they’d come out and put it out, even if you hadn’t paid your $75, but I was wrong.”

Yes you were wrong moocher … here is the deal the the libtards don’t seem understand – and might I add it caused a headache trying to understand their logic or the lack there of. In the rural country in most areas are volunteer fire departments and if those areas don’t have a volunteer fire department they contract with the city for fire protection for those in the county you have have to pay a fee for protection because that is how the fire department pays for trucks, suits, helmets, hoses, diesel, maintenance, the fire station, electricity and insurance. If no one pays the fee how are they going to pay for all those cost? The people in the city pay a tax, the people in the county pay a fee known as “pay to spray” as the city fire departments are full time tax funded and the fire departments in the county are member fee based volunteers.

Not a difficult concept to understand – both have operating cost and mechanisms in place to cover those cost – one is taxes (the urban city) the other is subscriber fees (the rural county).

Rural Tennessee fire draws attention to ‘pay-to-spray’ services

Fire subscriptions, also known as “pay-to-spray” fees, are fairly common in Tennessee, especially in rural areas that aren’t directly served by a fire district. Although fire subscription fees may seem unusual, most resident across the country pay for fire protection services in one form or another.

Where I live in Kentucky about 20 miles from where this story went down in Tennessee – they put the fire department fee on your property tax bill so you must to pay it if you own property – but it wasn’t always thet way where I live. At one time the fee, like the fire department was voluntary and you could either pay the fee or get hit with a huge bill if you didn’t and that was the deal in Kentucky – pay the fee or pay for the call, but there was a problem getting people to pay after the fact which could be  several $1000. The volunteer firehouse which runs on a shoestring budget would often have to sue to get the money and after a fire many people didn’t have the money to pay, hell most didn’t have it before the fire – ergo you can’t get blood out of a turnip. So people must be responsible for their actions – Cranick has said “I thought they’d come out and put it out, even if you hadn’t paid your $75, but I was wrong.” and later Cranick changed his story to say ‘he forgot to pay… it was an oversight’ … well which is it? Is it what you said first or what you said on MSNBC? I’m betting it’s what you said first, but now you are mining for sympathy, well it’s not happening here.

I knew plenty of people that rolled the dice and didn’t pay hoping they didn’t have a fire and I’m guess Cranick did just that, he rolled the dice and crapped out. Now the if I was Fire Chief which I’m not, I would have put the fire out, out of public safety and sent him a big ass bill for it. I might have had a problem collecting but that’s why they make property liens – after all Tennessee law says…

(68-102-121):

Officer may remedy dangerous conditions at expense of owners. —

If any party fails to comply with the order as modified on appeal by the court or the commissioner, and within the time fixed by either of them, then the officer is empowered to cause the building or premises to be repaired, torn down, demolished, materials removed and all dangerous conditions remedied, as the case may be, at the expense of the party or parties.

So was the Fire Chief in violation of the law? I don’t know I’m not a Tennessee lawyer nor one at all or is the Fire Chief in the right by adhering to the policy of not providing services Cranick didn’t pay for? Is the policy in violation of the law? The law says “MAY” it doesn’t say “SHALL” and in my world ‘may’ is not ‘shall’ and that is a difference in the law. Honestly I’m torn – the Libertarianism in me says Cranick made a choice – deal with it, but on the other hand is that the right thing to do? Screw what the law says or doesn’t say – is it the responsible thing to do? As I said I would put the fire out and send them a bill for $10,000 or so. After all if you crash your car you can’t call from the scene and get insurance to cover it, can you?

Here is a question the media isn’t asking – how many people hurried in and paid the fee after Cranick’s fire? I tried to call and find out because the libtards have the phones tied up calling to whine about it.

Oh have you noticed all these liberal bloggers that are whining about the fire department are not offering to help Cranick – typical, but most of them are trying to turn this into a Republican verses Democrats issues which is why I’ve brought it up but actually it’s a personal responsibility verses irresponsibility issue. Cranick had a personal responsibility to pay his subscriber fee and he didn’t so were just suppose to say “Oh that’s OK” – no… choices have consequences do they not? Gene Cranick made a choice, he knew the consequences of that choice now he needs to deal with it. That’s not to say that South Fulton’s policy is correct, but be that as it may it is the policy and it was followed – that policy may well be changed as a matter of ethics, but only time will tell.

Cranick plight is a result of failed personal responsibility and South Fulton’s failed public responsibility. This is what happens when one person can’t follow the rules and another can’t break them and I don’t fell empathy for either one.

More here…

Rural Tennessee fire sparks conservative ideological debate

International firefighter’s group condemns local department
Firefighters let home burn because owner didn’t pay fee
Glenn Beck: Firefighters Right to Let Home Burn
HuffPo – Firefighters Watch As Home Burns: Gene Cranick’s House Destroyed In Tennessee Over $75 Fee (VIDEO)

August 26, 2010

What about this Mosque in ….

Filed under: FYI,immigration,WTF — Tags: , , , , , , — AWG @ 10:31 pm

Not Ground Zero it’s not Chicago no, no, no it’s rural Western Kentucky!

WTF?

Here is the deal some time back the local chicken plant, Pilgrim’s Pride got nervous about the number of illegals they had working there – the local folks didn’t like it and it was becoming a political hot topic as not only did Pilgrim’s Pride just emerged from Chapter 11 bankruptcy they also had a company wide problem with illegals. So while Pilgrim’s Pride was a large employer in the area they weren’t employing locals as they employed a lot of Hispanics both legal and illegal and in a area high in unemployment this didn’t set well. Since the immigration debate was raging across the country – Pilgrim’s Pride quietly got rid of most of their Hispanic workers and replaced them with Somali workers brought in on a government refugee program – how the hell they end up in rural Kentucky I don’t know, but whatever.

So now most of the Hispanics are gone and they have been replaced by Somalis refugees. And they asked and apply for a permit to open a Mosque in a small building downtown with no parking and do this lack of parking and a small building the permit was refused on August 25, 2010 and on August 26, 2010 a Somali man allegedly tries to kidnap a 12 year old girl was arrested at the address of the purposed Mosque building. Kind of odd don’t you think? No in fairness just like every person in jail he claims he is innocent and didn’t do it – shocker there.

Side note: From my days of working around convicts I never met a single one that was guilty – so I asked them “Then way are you here?”

So here is the story – now I’m going to have to copy all of the articles from West Kentucky Star as their active links change as fast as the wind … Now, I don’t like copying full articles but if Joe, Ro, Donna or Dunker have a problem with it then call me and I’ll fix it.

From the West Kentucky Star written by Joe Jackson (not the song writer)

Board Denies Request for Somali Mosque in Mayfield
By Joe Jackson
MAYFIELD, KY – There will be no Muslim Mosque in Mayfield. The Mayfield Zoning Board on Tuesday denied a group of Somali Muslims’ request for a conditional use permit to open a Mosque in Mayfield.

The board ruled the size of the building was not big enough to hold the number of Somalis who might worship at any given time. The board also said there wasn’t adequate parking at the proposed site at 312 East Broadway.

“There’s really no off-street parking,” Commissioner Don Costello said. “There’s very limited on-street parking and the neighbors say they can’t use the spaces they’re not using. So it came down to parking and public safety.”

Pam Frizzell from New Wave Hair Salon next door to the proposed Mosque site said it would have definitely caused a parking problem for her customers.

“Our patrons have a hard time finding a place to park right now,” Frizell said. “I don’t want my customers to have to walk from two blocks away just to get their hair done.”

The proposed site only has six parking spaces and the section of the building the Somalis wanted to hold religious meetings in can only hold 40 people. City officials estimate there are between 150 and 300 Somalis in Mayfield and Graves County.

City Planner Brad Rodgers said this is the first time the city has denied a religious group a conditional use permit and he says this might not be the last we hear about the issue.

“This issue may not be over,” Rodgers said. “They could choose to go to another building. They could appeal this to the Circuit Court if they so choose. This is probably not a dead issue.”

An overflow crowd filled the council chambers of City Hall Tuesday for the public hearing. More than 100 people were turned away because there was not enough room.

No Somalis attended the hearing. Graves County Sheriff John Davis said one of the Somali petitioners showed up but was turned away by law enforcement by mistake.

Well the Somali lost that permit due to parking and building size – I know the area and that’s a valid concern also the building is very small which would be a problem for a large crowd. So what to do – maybe kidnap a child? Yea that’s it.

Somali Man Charged with Attempted Kidnapping
By Joe Jackson
MAYFIELD, KY – Mayfield police are investigating the attempted abduction of a 12-year-old girl by a Somali refugee. Police arrested 23-year-old Yusuf Hassan of Mayfield Tuesday at 312 East Broadway.

If that address sounds familiar it’s because that’s the address that a group of Somalis had sought to use as a mosque before Mayfield’s Zoning Board denied it a permit. Hassan has been charged with the attempted kidnapping of a minor.

Police say Hassan approached the girl Tuesday around 5 pm on South Sixth Street. He allegedly grabbed her on the shoulder but the girl shrugged him off. He then grabbed her around the waist and tried to take her to his car which was parked in a nearby lot. The girl broke free and ran to her mother’s workplace nearby.

Police found the car and the girl was able to identify Hassan in a photo lineup. He was arrested and lodged in the Graves County Jail. His bond is set at $100,000.

So what you think about that?

I’ve read dozens of liberal bloggers calling the folks here backwoods rednecks, hicks, inbred, racist, intolerant and about any other derogatory term you can think of – but it’s funny I didn’t here them say a single word about the attempted kidnapping of the young girl by the Somali immigrant. Weird huh?

But it not just us redneck toothless hicks in Western Kentucky denying permits for Mosque they are doing it in Chicago too…

Permit Denied For Mosque In West Rogers Park

May 6, 2010

Nashville Flood (Sadly for Liberals there is no Looting)

Filed under: FYI,Random Thoughts — Tags: , , , , , , , — AWG @ 3:03 pm

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Nashville Flood 2010: The Disaster You May Not Have Heard About

This doesn’t even begin to tell the story of the devastation in Nashville and all up and down the rivers – I’m surrounded by the Cumberland, Tennessee, Ohio and Mississippi Rives but living on high ground no harm here. Obama has yet to survey the damage, I haven’t heard word of FEMA in the area, I haven’t heard of any looting or people demanding to know where is the government and where is their food or water – in fact you are hearing very little as just like the Ice Storm of 2009 that brought the area to a halt for weeks, you heard no whining, no complaining, no looking to the government for help and crime – it was just people helping people and taking personal responsibility for the plight they were in – then again this is a different part of the country and we have a different attitude about things. We don’t look to government for solutions because we know they are the problem.

And since none of you donate to this website you can donate to the Salvation Army of Nashville for flood relief…
The Salvation Army of Nashville

It’s worthy.

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Nashville: The disaster America ignored?
Nashville: How to help

April 8, 2010

KY AG Jack Conway a DEMOCRAT is a Constitutional Idiot

Kentucky’s own Attorney General Jack Conway a democrat is a constitutional idiot and he is running for the senate. He said on Neil Cavuto’s show regarding the reason he will not join in the lawsuits to sue the Fed’s over healthcare is it’s a constitutional right…

Kentucky Attorney General Won’t Sue

CAVUTO: We should say, for those — and you know this inside and out, Attorney General, but what is being protested here, or at least appealed to the court level, and maybe all the way up to the Supreme Court, is the notion, can the government force you to buy health insurance?

And a lot of these A.G.s are saying, no, they can’t. You’re saying that, yes, they can.

CONWAY: What I’m saying is, my copy of the Constitution doesn’t carry a right not to be insured and that, if you don’t carry insurance, you’re likely to be some sort of drag on the system. Now, those are not my words, Neil. Those are worlds of Charles — words of Charles Fried, who’s a Harvard law professor and Ronald Reagan’s solicitor general from 1985 to 1989.

Your copy of the Constitution? Would that be the one you wrote on the back of a bar napkin in crayon? And I love the way this democrats keep tossing around Charlies Fried, Ronald Reagan’s solicitor general – what they don’t tell tell you is Charlies Fried is an Obama supporter – not exactly a dye in the wool conservative now is he? But that love to invoke the name Ronald Reagan like that gives their argument weight, well it’s doesn’t since Fried supported Obama his credibility is shot.

Now since I live in Kentucky I’m going to contact Jack Conway and ask him just which part of the Constitution carries the right to be insured… seems that the Attorney General of Kentucky is a constitutional idiot and is unaware of the fact that the US Constitution list the enumerated powers of the government and anything not listed with in the 4 corners of that document is an inalienable right given by God. No place does it say you have the right to taxpayer funded healthcare … how do I know? I’ve read the Constitution, something Attorney General Jack Conway DEMOCRAT Senatorial candidate in Kentucky needs to do! Perhaps I’ll send him a copy since his is written in crayon.

I will be calling his office and asking just where the constitution say this, me being a ignorant hick from the political Siberia of far, far Western Kentucky I’d love to know.

But the right reason Conway is not suing the Fed’s over healthcare is real simple – he’s a Progressive Liberal Democrat.

By the way – the other democrat running in the race Lt Governor Daniel Mongiardo has been staying with his in-laws in Frankfort while receiving a $30,000-a-year housing allowance from the state. $30,000.00 is more than a lot of Kentuckians make – if fact it’s more than most Kentuckians make.

Mongiardo Gets Housing Stipend, Stays with In-laws

February 17, 2010

What is in your backyard?

Filed under: FYI,That's Cool! — Tags: , , , — AWG @ 5:06 pm

I see Wild Turkey’s is the fields here all the time, it normally about 20-30 of them. However today I was walking out the door it was near dusk and overcast so the image isn’t that clear (that and I need a better lens), but I counted over 80 in the field and I know a missed a several that were to close to the treeline to make out and I couldn’t get them all in a single frame beside they took off when they saw me. The snow just melted off today so I guessing they were out looking for food. I’ve seen a lot of turkey’s in my life, most of them in Washington but this is the largest flock of wild ones I’ve ever seen… must be global warming or George Bush’s fault.

There are 33 in the image above

Blow up of a few, not the clear.

February 16, 2010

Republican US Senate Forum Video

Complete video of the Paducah/McCracken Co Grassroots GOP Forum
Runtime -  1 hour 1 minute

H/T Liberty Insider

February 15, 2010

GOP Grassroots Forum Recap

Well I spent Saturday (Feb. 13th) at the McCracken County Republican Grassroots Group Forum where the three primary candidates spoke, made opening statements, took a few questions and made closing statement, but it was not begin before a little political excitement… well excitement might be a strong wrong however a older gentlemen running for senate named Gurley Martin age 86 (really no kidding) was a little put out I’m guessing he wasn’t part of the debate so he made a but of a fuss down at stage front but that soon ending. Martin also had a number of pirated Ray Stevens videos printed up on CD he was handing out. If I had to guesstimate the crowd there was about 600 or so there give or take, not bad considering Kentucky was playing ball.

Before I got into it I have state that I am supporting Rand Paul and so far I have no reason to switch that support, Bill Johnson would be a close second. So no secret agenda here I’ve publicly identified my support, so don’t be calling me a shill I’m not a liberal.

I’m not going to go through this thing blow by blow but I’m going to point out a few things that caught my ear. In the opening statement Paul came out swinging repeatedly calling Grayson a liar, I’m not sure this was the best tactic as Paul went first allowing Grayson to take the high road and ignore the charges and not respond. While it is a fact that Grayson has waged several lies against Paul (like this one) I heard several people make note of the out of the gate attacks against Grayson as harsh and not the best tactic. However, having researched Grayson charges against what is on record from Paul I can understand Paul’s frustration with Grayson. That’s not to excuse it, but to state I understand it and as the Angry White Guy I’d jump Grayson about it too. Paul has been attacked by the Louisville Courier Journal by John David Dyche, Rand responded and the Louisville Courier Journal refused to print his response, how’s that for unbiased coverage. I’ll have a post on this shill John David Dyche coming up in the next day or so and you’ll see his agenda.

Back to the forum, for the most part Bill Johnson had a lot of really good things to say and steered clear of most the banter between Paul and Grayson venturing in a little at time, but as I’ve said before I think he has a great future in politics am just not sure if now is the time for a Senatorial bid as that’s a big bite to take having no prior legislative experience not that matters, it’s just a steep financial hill to climb. Really he should have challenged a House Seat as we have a number of State Representatives from both parties that need replacing. Not to mention the cost for a district race would have been far cheaper to run than a statewide race and the district in which Johnson resides could use a change in representation. He comes across as passionate conservative no doubt about it, has a concern about the Constitution and this administration venturing away from it and had by far the best answer of the day on this question here…

Should government be involved at all in the owning and operation of either large or small privately owned businesses?

Bill Johnson answer last after Grayson and Paul expanded on this to their respective 90 seconds. Johnson said, (more…)

February 5, 2010

GRASSROOTS GROUP PLANS KENTUCKY US SENATE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE FORUM

Filed under: FYI,Politics — Tags: , , , , , — AWG @ 8:37 am

If you are in the greater Western Kentucky area try to attend.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

GRASSROOTS GROUP PLANS KENTUCKY US SENATE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE FORUM

Paducah, Kentucky – January 27, 2010 – McCracken County Grassroots Group, in partnership with the McCracken County Executive Committee of the Republican Party, will present a Kentucky US Senate Republican Candidate Forum on February 13, 2010 at 12:30 p.m. at the McCracken County Courthouse, Courtroom A.

Republican Primary candidates, Secretary of State Trey Grayson, Bill Johnson, and Dr. Rand Paul, have each confirmed their attendance and will address questions from the voting public. Ron Beaton will act as moderator.

The forum will be broadcast live on the internet via UStream at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/kentucky-us-senate-candidate-forum. Live chat will be enabled for the duration of the event. Organizers feel that this will enable voters from all areas of the Commonwealth to watch and discuss this important forum.

Questions for the candidates may be submitted by email, mccrackengrassroots@gmail.com or by US mail, PO Box 433 Paducah, KY 42002.

All members of the voting public, as well as members of the press are welcome to attend. Local organizers expect both candidates and voters to get the information they need to ensure a successful Kentucky US Senate Republican Primary.

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January 28, 2010

A year after the Ice its Snow… I blame global warming (and Bush)

Filed under: Random Thoughts — Tags: , , — AWG @ 9:58 pm

Western Kentucky Jan 2009 Ice Storm

A year and two days ago on January 27, 2009 we were hammered by several inches of ice and it sucked.

Flashback here the ICE STORM tag

It took me a couple of long not so fun months to clean up all the downed wood and limbs from the many trees in the yard and still I have a lot of widow makers hanging from the tree even though I had 100′s fall during the year. All the trees were hit hard and hopefully they will recover, but between Hurricane Ike in September of ’08 and the Ice Storm of Jan-Feb of ’09 they were hammered.

I cut and stacked wood most of the summer and still have recently fallen widow makers that need to be cut up. I’ve been burning wood all winter and I’m burning some right now and just to piss the liberals off I enjoying every warm producing ton of CO2 they are pumping out.

When the deep freeze was all over our power was out for about 2 weeks, we ended up with about $7500.00 in property damages and didn’t receive a dime in FEMA money. However the fire department did drive by one day while I was cutting wood and pawn off some emergency rations nobody in my area wanted since they being dumb country hicks were all prepared for the storm, as was I. You can only wonder what the educated class would do. The rations were ok, nothing to write home about not any better than a MRE and wouldn’t hold a candle to C-RAT. I didn’t care one way or the other if I got them or not, I had a generator, plenty of food, firewood and fresh water so I was set … I like to call it personal responsibility you that stuff people do instead of waiting on the government to do it.

But tonight/today (which is way I thought of this) we are suppose to get 7″ to 10″ of snow. It is to start something after midnight – which is about 2 hours from now. So what the hell with all this snow and ice, I’m in the south? Where is the heat? Where is the humidity? Where is the global warming when you need it? Somebody get Copenhagen on the phone, someone call Al Gore I’ve got a beef.

Oh well I have food, water, firewood and a generator just in case.

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